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I have to start off by saying my mom is my best friend.
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However, we could not be more different.
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She's the exuberant outgoing idea gal and I grew up loving to go along with her shenanigans.
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I would describe myself as a more quiet, introverted and loyal follower.
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However, when I became a mom, what I really liked is how my mom clearly accepted me as an adult, making my own choices and respecting how I would like to parent my child.
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I became the leader.
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She became the loyal follower.
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Welcome to the Mother's Day episode of the Bite your Tongue podcast.
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Today, we're celebrating mothers of adult children and we're adding a bit of surprise throughout the episode.
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Listen for messages interspersed throughout the episode from adult children to their parents.
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It should be fun, so let's get started.
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Welcome to the Mother's Day episode of Bite your Tongue.
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I guess Mother's Day should be one of those days we really don't have to bite our tongues, but I don't think that's the case Today.
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Ellen's unable to join me, so I'm on my own.
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Wish me luck.
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For our last few episodes, we've interviewed experts in different fields to talk about parenting adult children.
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Today, for Mother's Day, I want to celebrate two mothers I've admired for many years.
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They are real parents of adult children who I believe we all can learn from.
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I didn't realize when I thought of them that they both are parents of just girls.
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One is a parent of four girls and one is a parent of three.
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So let me introduce them.
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Welcome to Doria, a parent of three girls.
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One is a parent of four girls and one is a parent of three.
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So let me introduce them.
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Welcome to Doria, a parent of three girls.
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Doria was actually my children's preschool teacher many moons ago and also a parent educator.
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Welcome, doria.
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Thank you, Denise.
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I'm very honored to be here this morning.
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And welcome to Sharon, who is a mother of two girls and one set of twin girls, so four all together.
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Thanks, Denise, for asking me to participate.
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This is great.
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I'm so excited to have both of you with me today.
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So thanks for agreeing to do this.
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And I know both of you are laypeople, so just your life experiences is what I'm hoping you'll share and I think it will be valuable to all of our listeners.
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So the reason I selected both of you is because when I'm with you, I feel joy.
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I see joy in your lives, I see joy with your families.
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Both of you bring a spirit of fun and joy to every meeting, every party.
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Even when I'm just hanging out in your homes, I feel as though this happiness and fun builds a great relationship with your adult kids.
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If you agree, do you have any suggestions for our listeners who might not come by this happy spirit so easily, how they can more bring this joy when they're visiting or with their adult children?
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Literally, when I go visit my adult kids, I always think of both of you and I ask myself or say to myself be positive, denise, be happy, denise, bring joy, Denise.
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Don't ask too many questions, denise.
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So I just want to hear from both of you and you can just take turns how you bring this joy to every situation you're in.
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Don't be shy, go ahead, doria, you go first.
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Well, parenting young children can be tough.
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I think that in my family we always tried to bring a little humor, lots of enthusiasm to get over the tense times, and the main thing was that we wanted our kids to feel safe and valued, but we also wanted to have fun, and I think that that kind of spirit carries through even into adult children.
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Sharon how about you?
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I agree, I like to think our default position as a family is to have fun and laugh and eat together a lot.
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We spent a lot of time playing games, doing crafts, outdoor activities, and everybody was able to be involved at whatever level they were capable of, and this led to a lot of spilled glitter, a cardboard town on our front porch, all sorts of things that bring us back to not so much the messes we made or seeing them as messes, but how much fun we had doing them together.
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But for someone like me, I bring more seriousness to situations and I'm always thinking about what I need to do and what questions I need to ask.
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How can I bring more joy to the situation?
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Do I talk to my kids beforehand about planning games, trying to bring that fun?
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Because it's true, when we do do games and puzzles and fun and laugh, it does make things more joyful.
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What do you think?
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Well, I think you have to be present, and I know that sounds a bit trite sometimes, but really being present at this moment with your kids is the key, Because we all know you close your eyes and the next thing you know they are young adults.
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Day the dirty dishes will last, you know they'll still be there and just enjoy this moment, and it's not easy, you know.
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Trying to have that feeling and that spirit, I think, is the most important thing.
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Yeah, you know, especially with the, with younger children, and lots and lots of hugs, lots and lots of encouragement in maybe not even the spoken word, but hugs and clapping and holding hands and that kind of thing, it still holds true.
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As adults too, they need hugs, we need hugs.
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They need, you know, a smile.
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We all need smiles these days because of the masks we're wearing so much.
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Those are the kinds of things that are really.
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They translate throughout our relationship and the times that we have together, you know.
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Sharon.
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We have girls, and it might be different, denise, but I pull my girls onto my lap every time I see them because they're always your children.
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And you know, sometimes there's giggles and, but they love it, even though most of and you know, sometimes there's giggles and, but they love it, even though most of them all three of them are bigger than me.
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But pulling them onto your lap and just confirming that strong loving bond that you have is never gets old.
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I think that's really special, dori, and I think you're really fortunate because you at least have two of them with you in Denver and Sharon has one.
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So both of you are lucky at least to have some of them around.
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I'm not so fortunate.
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Let's move on now.
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Now, when your kids are young and they are living with you, we're entwined in their lives.
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But once they begin living on their own, they begin to have families or significant others of their own, or they move away.
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It becomes harder and harder to feel engaged in their life without feeling intrusive.
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Do you have any advice on how to create that bond if you can't pull them onto your lap or you can't just have them over for an afternoon to make dinner?
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Every visit with them is a formal affair.
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You're flying to see them, they're flying to see you, other than your chats on the phone.
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So sometimes, when I'm excited to see them, I think everything I need to ask them that I haven't asked them for so long, and then it starts into a question session and I try to avoid that.
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So how do you keep that bond alive, even when you're far apart?
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bond alive even when you're far apart.
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Well before COVID, we purposefully organized things together trips, especially holidays.
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We now, with different families involved, with husbands, families and that sort of things, we try to work around at least one of the major holidays all together, but I still, you know, just send them little packages.
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And Chinese New Year is really important to me, so they always get something at Chinese New Year or Easter or even Thanksgiving and definitely their birthdays.
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So it's just something that keeps us connected and organizing something so we can look forward to being together.
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That's one of the things we do.
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You know, I have to say God bless WhatsApp because I have a.
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We all remember well.
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I remember the days when phone calls were so expensive and they were such a hard thing to do.
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But I have a daughter who's been living in Europe for the past almost five years and we honestly talk every day.
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We just touch base with each other.
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We've memorized each other's schedules.
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I know what's going on with her, she knows what's going on with me.
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We feel so close.
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Our family also has a running WhatsApp account that everyone comments on, sends pictures on, and so, although she lives so very far away, I feel like our connection is so relevant and so close, even though we've got those miles between us and my other two girls.
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I don't know if this is normal or not, but we talk every day too.
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How's your day?
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How are you feeling?
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What'd you wear today?
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What'd you do?
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You know?
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Just silly stuff, but we just have that close, close connection.
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It's always been that way and I I was that way with my mother, so I can see that continuing with us and that way, there's no, there's no big breaks in in our relationship.
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So, like I said, god bless WhatsApp.
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How about you, sharon?
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I feel exactly the same.
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It goes both ways.
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We really are so interested in each other's lives.
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We're so happy or sad.
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When we're all happy or sad, we have this fam thread that gets a comment every day.
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We speak all the time together and my daughter with our first grandchild, has been so generous and calls every morning with the baby so that she recognizes our faces, and it's really a lovely, lovely thing, and we are so thrilled about the ability to do that digitally.
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Really, young adults.
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Now you're talking to someone who really doesn't have that close connection with their child.
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They're connected.
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They speak maybe once a week, once every two weeks.
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They love each other very, very much but would like to, you know, increase that bond.
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What sorts of you know, ideas or talking points or things they can bring up that don't sound judgmental or questioning or intrusive?
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That may open the door for some of these parents.
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I have to admit it starts early and one of the things that my girls and my husband and I have talked about is how we prioritized eating as many meals, or especially dinner, together and those times that were prescribed and expected always always allowed for conversation.
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And because of the things that we were involved with in our work and in our volunteer lives, my husband and I we brought up tab.
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You know subject matter that may have been, may have been uncomfortable or taboo in other places, but we really were able to talk to them at relatively young ages about different things and they appreciate that now very much.
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And that's some of the starting blocks for when you're together, where everybody gets asked how their day was.
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What was the best part?
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What was the worst part?
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Is there anything special or sad that they wanted to share?
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And that was really the seeds for where we are now.
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I agree, Sharon.
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I love where you said what was the happiest or saddest part that you'd like to share, and saying that with a nonjudgmental tone and a really interested and empathetic tone or excited tone for the happy part, Go ahead.
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Doria.
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Oh, I just want to say my family is Greek and food is everything.
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So it was exactly the same thing in our house Lots of conversation, lots of discussion, lots of fun, but also lots of serious things were discussed at the dinner table, and food is still unimportant, I have to tell you.
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My one daughter calls me and she says Mom, can you walk me through how to make your salad dressing?
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So we're on the phone, talking about food, talking about things, and we're making salad dressing together.
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Or I even know two of my daughters.
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They cook together during the pandemic.
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So really finding those little minutiae of life that is so important it doesn't have to be big major topics about how's that job going and are you able to pay your bills or things like that, although those are important but also just the little things how are you feeling today?
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And with girls are like mom, what are you wearing?
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So just touching base and we're all alive right now and just make the moment special, even if it's a two minute phone call, make it happy and special.
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I really love that.
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I love that.
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Okay, so we've talked about so many positive things, but if you had to guess, what are the things about you that might drive your young adult children crazy?
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How long do we have?
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so I started realizing when I was becoming an adult and a more capable human being that we as kids see our parents as adults so much faster than our parents see us as adults.
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Our parents see us as adults.
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And that misalignment can be really annoying, because I think becoming an adult is a lot of fun.
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You know, you're figuring out how to do things, you're not having to ask questions of your parents all the time and yet at the same time your parents are giving you advice all the time.
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So I think really the things that might bother me about my parents sometimes is when they're being so well-intentioned but they might be treating me like I'm maybe a decade younger.
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You know, checking in on have I brought my car for an oil change?
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Have I done my taxes?
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How are finances going?
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You know things that it's just they have a hard time seeing us kids as adults and maybe not needing them as much.
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So that drives me crazy.
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But really what bothers me the most is when it turns out they do in fact still know more than me on a lot of things.
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Well, I have to say it's different for each child.
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It's different for each child because I could ask the most you know innocuous little question of one child and then another one would take, you know, umbrage with it, but I think it.
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You know, I definitely could come up with things that would irritate each child and I really try not to go there.
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It mostly has to do with personality differences and you know, my kids tell me they admire my strength and things that have happened in my life, some losses and things like that.
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So we I feel like we know each other well enough to not try to go there, although if there is something big I feel like there's no subject that is taboo that we could talk about it.
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But yes, you kind of have to read the room and read the kid Interesting.
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That's a good, that's really good.
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Yep, how about you, sharon?
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I'm going to go with what they admire about me first, okay, but they know I've got opinions, but they appreciate the fact that I've evolved and we've come to a really healthy place for many opinions and a willingness to talk about all sorts of things.
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But I would think I actually, in part of this discourse that we have in conversation, one of the things that has driven them crazy and that we've talked about and that they've grown from and I've grown from, is I was raised in a culture where being nice was everything being being um, oh, I don't always.
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I don't want to say submissive exactly, but but definitely not on this planet to offend anyone, right.
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And I think what they've taught me from some of the frustration of that education at home was that they actually, not only being biracial but also being women, their voice counts a lot outside our home.
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It counts tons in our home, but outside I really wanted them to be the example of the way I was raised, guess, but it is something that I know annoys them periodically when I'm saying, oh, were you nice.
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And I want to make a note that Sharon is a first generation Chinese American.
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Right, sharon, is that right, yeah, yeah.
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So, um, we have two very ethnic ladies with me today.
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Um, so it's been.
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It's been interesting to to be so proud of them finding their own voices and yet at the same time, going wait, is that, was that too aggressive?
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And they'll say, no, that's how I got my raise, or that's how I got my job and I'm good at it, or I'm funny, and those are not things I would say for myself.
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So the whole thing in terms of annoyance is a compliment to the way that they've come through this.
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They've been very nice to me about it, thank goodness.
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But it doesn't matter.
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That makes perfect sense.
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That's a really.
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That's wonderful, Sharon, Thank you.
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What role do your spouses play, Dori?
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I'll move to you, since Sharon just finished.
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It's a team effort that keeps these relationships healthy, I assume.
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So what role does your spouse play?
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I happen to know Doria's spouse quite well and think of him as a big kid, but I'd like to know from you, Doria, what role your spouse plays Well.
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I believe the best way to put that is that my husband, my girl's father and I share a lot of the same values.
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We, you know, we both have the same moral compasses and that we've tried to, you know, pass along to our kids.
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But that's where the likeness ends.
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We are, we are completely different people.
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We have completely different passions.
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He's the fun one taking them out, doing all these fun things that, gosh, let's jump out of an airplane, let's go do this and that.
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And I'm the one saying, you know, I wonder if we pulled our cover over this way, if it would make our bed look nicer when we made it.
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So the way these kids have grown up has been very diverse, but I do believe that it worked and they're very close to their dad.
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I'm very blessed to have had a partner that was truly 50-50 in the raising of my kids.
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So that's my story.
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And Sharon.
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I feel just as fortunate I really do.
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He is a model of hard work, as we both are in our own ways.
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He loves his girls.
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There's no, there's just no question.
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He's calmer than I am, much calmer than I am.
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I sort of established the crafting and studying and dance and play at home.
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I coached their soccer team, so it was a little serious tone there even though we were running around and having a lot of fun.
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But my teammate has been taught them to bicycle, to play tennis and did the whole skiing thing.
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Especially important was he taught them how to drive.
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That's where the calm was, because that would not have been good, because I still clench when he's driving.
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So you're kind of getting the idea of how the divisions of some of the work went.
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But we definitely were a team and only a couple of times pretty substantial, maybe like a piercing, did somebody get away with pitting us against one another, as it were.
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So, other than that, I feel exactly the same way, doria.
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We were really fortunate to have roommates.
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So my mom does a lot of things super well, but one thing that I'm very grateful for is how interested she always is in the things I'm most passionate about.
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She's always willing to dive deep and get very technical in topics that I know she really doesn't have much of a background or understanding in.
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But she's really good at asking questions and, you know, allowing me to just converse with her about the things I care deeply for.
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You know, I think this is a rarity in the world and it's something really special when you're able to share that connection with your mom, and she's always been a superstar at cultivating that sort of relationship.
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Do the spouses ask the tougher questions?
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I think Tom was always a little wary of girl issues.
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He would run it by me.
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But you know, as far as things like their finances or figuring out when their tires need to be rotated or things like that, he was always the one that they turned to for that.
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But no, I think I got the tough questions and I think when you come out of a generation being raised by parents that were raised by Europeans and a traditional family, my kids ask me and talk to me about everything, whether or not I'm ready for it, very open and I have to admit sometimes that's hard.
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I have to make sure that I am moving with the times but true to myself and being authentic.
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So I think I get the tougher questions for sure.
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I completely agree, doria.
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I really feel like I've gotten the tougher questions, and one part that I've made a conscious effort of is to be sure and share those with my husband at times, so that he's not completely blindsided by not understanding what they're upset about.
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We've had a couple of those incidences where he doesn't care about anything and I said, oh my gosh, he doesn't know anything.
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That's one thing that I do recommend sharing with spouses, teammates.
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Parenting is information, and communication still is the key.
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But if you're asked to keep it confidential, do you I?
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usually use some judgment there.
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You know, I can trust my husband if I tell him not to tell him, not to mention it to the girls, but sometimes I feel like he needs to be in the loop a little bit.
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So and they probably know I tell them Right, right, right, Sometimes it's you tell dad, mom, I can't tell them Quite honestly.
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the answer to that is I'm not asked that that much.
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Oh, that's so funny.
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Both of you have had harmonious and warm, open relationships with your mothers and I've watched those relationships.
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I feel like I've been privy to them.
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What do you think you learned from your mother that makes you a better parent of an adult child?
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Sharon, you start this time.
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She was 45 years old and left with six children to raise alone after my father passed away.
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She had kids aged 21 to 20 months and he just exuded kindness and dignity in everything that that she did, and I am forever grateful for that.
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She just has this strength of will to make life good.
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The life experience that she's had is unbelievable from her war experiences to moving to a new country, to having all of these kids and having her spouse die my beloved father.
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But she is one of the most positive people you'll ever meet.
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It amazes me still.